It's all hotting up in the states...

[Nailer]

Super tuesday's coming up, may as well start this inevitable thread, who would you all back should you be American citizens old enough to vote, and why?

[AdRo]

john edwards has dropped out he is democrat but on a lighter note Rudy Giuliani is boarderline quitting ha! delighted
he tried to get by using 911 and iraq and all that but the funny thing is he uses those words in every sentence even texans are getting pissed off at the notion.

it is hard to say who will get in because the two main canidates have the same ideas:
healthcare
clinton: Require everyone to get health insurance, subsidized by employers and the government; pay for it by rolling back tax cuts for households earning over $250,000 and savings in the existing system
obama:Require that all children have health insurance; pay for it by rolling back President Bush's tax cuts for households earning over $250,000; aims for universal coverage.

iraq
clinton: Voted in 2002 to authorize invasion, now opposed; opposed troop increase; start phased withdrawal within 60 days of taking office, with the goal to have most troops out by the end of 2013
obama:Opposed invasion from the beginning; opposed troop increase; withdraw one or two brigades a month to finish within 16 months.

climate change
clinton: Supports a mandatory cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050.
obama: Supports a mandatory cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050.

although the democrat issues are basically the same clinton and obama have the most similar.i find their climate change ideals to be very intresting they are planning to drop their co2 emmisions 40-60% from what it is now!

NOW!!

[kevinkav]

I'd vote Britney Spears or George Bush if they werew running.

[Robbie]

On the republican side (not that I would vote for them) I would prefer John McCain over Huckabee or Romney, mostly because of the process of elimination. Romney because he's a mad religious, conservative mormon lad with his base of support in the religious right, and Huckabee is a creationist...nuff said.
Also McCain can't lift his arms above his head because he was tortured by the North Vietnamise during the Vietnam War which I think is pretty cool (Reminds me if Rambo).

Also Ron Paul doesn't seem too bad compared to those too either, but apparently he doesn't stand much of a chance for some reason, I think because he doesn't get on well with neo-conservatives and he openly opposes the war.

[Robbie]

Although Giant Douche is a pretty tempting vote aswell.

[kevinkav]

Ron Paul is hated by republicans yet he ius one,he's fucked.

[Robbie]

Yeah but he's breaking loads of records for donations from individuals, it's weird.

[Nailer]

The cynic in my says that all the interest in the Democratic nomination is ultimately futile, and that the American public are never really going to vote for either a black man or a woman when it comes down to it, and that John McCain or the likes will end up being president.

The optimist in me says that Obama will get the Democratic nomination and then become president.

I dont think it'd be healthy for Clinton to get into power, that family have too much friends and unfluence throughout the whitehouse already, people in very high places, so much so that it wouldn't be good for American democracy. I firmly believe that political systems need to be completely rooted out at relatively regular intervals so as the avoid the political cronyism that just breeds and breeds every time someone holds office for two long.

Circles of powerful individuals starts to emerge, as happened with the Bush Administration eg. Paul Wolfowitz, Haliburton etc. The White house needs to be cleared out and started afresh.

Obama is by far the most charismatic for me, and as Adro said, the policies of the two candidates dont differ very much. Between Obamas charisma and obvious leadership qualities and Clinton's unhealthy networks running through America's bureaucracy, I'd vote for Obama.

[Robbie]

Yeah, but he's BLACK!

[AdRo]

obama has no experience
clinton has been senitor for two terms straight plus she has see bill in office ......ok apart from the last point she would do really well as president.she might run it as the free world intead of mr.x's world

[Nailer]

Quote from Obama, after being questioned on his experience - "They say I need to be seasoned, they say I need to be stewed. They say, we need to boil all the hope out of him - like us - and then he'll be ready."

Plus I don't think that Clinton's extra four years in the U.S. Senate hardly provides better experience than Obama's ten years in the Illinois state Senate with some of America's most hard-boiled politicians. I dont know how Clinton can make such a huge deal out of experience, both of them are almost level as regards terms as senators, and when you look at their history in law Obama comes out on top. He was a senior lecturer for the University of Chicago law school and was a graduate of Harvard.

Probably sound like I'm a massive Obama supporter here, I'm not really! But I don't think that Clinton is massively ahead of him as regards experience. She's seen Bill in office, but I dont think she would have got much closer to all the issues he dealt with than the majority of senators anyway.

The fact that he didn't back Iraq from the start would be a major plus for me too.

[Robbie]

I don't know who's better between the two, but i'd say the democrats would have an easier time winning the presidential election with Clinton rather than Obama. She's got the whole southern thing going on which would help in the few southern states that aren't completely backwards, plus she's appealing more to middle America more-so than obama. You could say that Obama would get the 'black-vote', but the democrats have that in the bag anyway.

[AdRo]

you'd be suprised it could turn around on the day
look t the election of 1948

Famous photograph of Truman grinning and holding up a copy of the newspaper that (falsely) announced his defeat.